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DOCUMENT No. 5
British
Prime Minister, Mr. Tony Blair’s Press Conference Held
in Islamabad, Pakistan
January
7, 2002
Introductory Remarks
by the Prime Minister. First of all, can I say, thank you to you and
all your team for the great work that you have done here. As you know, for
all the members of the press, there is going to be an opportunity to ask questions
about the current situation when I do a press conference with President Musharraf
slightly later and if I may, I will restrict my remarks at this juncture to
the situation in Afghanistan following the meeting that I have just had with
representatives of Afghan women.
I think
if we think back to the days following the terrible events of 11 September,
people then were very sceptical as to whether action in Afghanistan could
be successful. Some people warned that it would lead to a humanitarian disaster,
a military disaster, a political disaster. I think some months on, we are
able to see that as a result of the strength of the international coalition,
and I pay tribute to President Musharraf’s role in that, as a result of that
international coalition, we have managed to achieve more than people I think
could possibly have thought or dreamt of a few months ago.
Militarily,
the campaign has been immensely successful, we still have objectives to be
secured but nonetheless the fact is the terrorist network of al- Queda
in Afghanistan is effectively broken, the Taliban regime is no
more, politically Afghanistan has at least the prospect now of a stable and
proper political regime for the future.
And
of course in humanitarian terms then as a result partly of the success of
the military action, but also because of the strength of the international
coalition, we are able to get aid through to people in Afghanistan in virtually
unlimited amounts.
Now,
none of that is to be so sanguine that we don't remember the enormous challenges
and problems that remain. Afghanistan has been a failed state for many, many
years and when you hear, as I have just heard, the comments and stories of
Afghan women, subject to brutal repression and deprivation over many, many
years, then I think we can realise just how important it is that the international
community, having made its commitment to sorting out Afghanistan in the interests
of defeating international terrorism, continues that commitment in order to
help Afghanistan back on its feet, stop being a failed state and be a reliable
partner in this region. That is what all the countries in the region want
and it is what the international community needs.
And
I believe, therefore, that it is important that we recognise that for Afghanistan,
both in terms of the new political system there and in terms of the progress
and development of its people, it is vital that we, as an international community,
remember the commitment that we have given to people there.
Now
again I think many people were worried whether, as the Taliban regime
were put out of power, would Afghan people be pleased at that event or not.
I think again it is very, very clear from the joy that many people in Afghanistan
have evidenced, day after day, after day, that this has been a liberation
from that regime, that they know that that is the first step. The second step
is to put in place that stability for the long term and that is why the international
community has got to remain committed and committed to helping Afghanistan
become, as I say, a stable partner in the region and a proper member of the
international community.
I would
like, in particular, obviously to pay tribute not just for the leadership
of the United States in the international coalition, in the military action
that has been taken, but also pay tribute to our own British Armed Forces
and to the other Armed Forces now part of the International Security Assistance
Force. That again is part of our demonstration of the commitment we have to
people in Afghanistan and to the country itself. So if any confirmation were
needed, I can assure you even a short conversation with those representatives
of Afghan women is enough to make us realise how important it is that the
commitments we have given to people there are indeed honoured.
Question. One of the main goals of the
coalition effort had been stated over and over and over again, getting Mullah
Mohammed Omar, getting Osama bin Laden. Those figureheads remain somewhere,
what does this mean for the length of the campaign and how can you really
justify it as a success?
Prime Minister. First of all the campaign remains
in place to make sure all our objectives are secure, and that includes tracking
down those responsible for the terrorism in Afghanistan. So until that is
done, our mission is not complete, there is no doubt about that all. Secondly,
however, there is also no doubt that although those objectives still remain
to be completed, nonetheless we have effectively shut down the al-Queda
terrorist network in Afghanistan and what we now know is that that network
of training camps, through which thousands of people were passing in order
to commit acts of terrorism, not just in this region but as we know throughout
the world, those camps are now shut down, those people are no longer being
trained in terrorism, many of those people have been captured or killed. So,
I think yes, of course, it is true that until all our objectives are complete,
our mission is not completed. But I think it is fair to say that it has been
very substantially successful.
Q. Sir, half a million of Iraqi
innocent people were killed in the operation Desert Storm and in the name
of the hunt for Saddam Hussein. Now thousands have been killed in Afghanistan
in the name of the hunt for Osama bin Laden. Saddam Hussein is still there,
where is Osama bin Laden?
PM. I have got nothing to add on
the point about Osama bin Laden to what I said in response to the earlier
question, although I think you would have to say, Sir, that for people in
Afghanistan, and certainly the women I have just spoken to now, they regard
the absence of the Taliban regime as a great source of joy and liberation
for them. These people were brutally repressed, that Taliban regime
was probably the most brutally repressive regime in the world and if there
was a criticism of the international community, it is not that we acted against
that regime when we did, but possibly that we should have acted sooner. In
respect of Iraq, I think that is a quite different situation. The reason why
action was taken against Iraq in the Operation Desert Storm was for a very
simple reason, Iraq invaded Kuwait, it annexed Kuwait, the international community
rightly took the view that they had to be expelled and driven out of Kuwait.
Now there can rain all sorts of debates about whether the action should then
have proceeded to drive Saddam Hussein out of Iraq, that is an issue lots
of historians debate, usually with the benefit of hindsight, but one thing
that is absolutely beyond doubt is that Iraq could not be allowed to annex
Kuwait, that it had to be expelled from that country and, therefore, I strongly
support what happened there in mission Desert Storm.
Q. Your talk this evening, but
how important to the military action continuing in Afghanistan and to the
wider action against terrorism is a calming of Indo-Pakistan relations in
general terms?
PM. As you rightly say, I don't
intend to go into the issues that I will be discussing later and you, honestly,
I promise you, will have a lot of time to ask the questions on that. But I
would simply say this, that of course the support of Pakistan and of India
for the international coalition against terrorism has been of importance,
immense importance, and the stability of this region, its importance for the
region and for the wider world I think barely needs stating really.
Q. Are you satisfied with the
security force agreement with the interim government in Kabul because there
has been a lot of backtracking by the interim government and it has been a
very tortuous negotiation. And I just wondered if you would give us your thoughts
on the up-coming Tokyo meeting on reconstruction, could you give us your thoughts
on what kind of reconstruction funds Britain is imagining, because again there
is talk of several trust funds being run by several groups of countries which
would only confuse the situation even more and the hope was that there would
be one such fund which would be able to come under the UN and the coalition,
which could then act as a kind of political lever to win over Afghans and
the warlords etc?
PM. On the first point, I don't
actually accept there has been tortuous negotiation. What there has been obviously,
a negotiation that is very important. When you go into a situation such as
Kabul and Afghanistan, given what has happened, it is extremely important
for the security of all the participating forces that we tie down in a proper
Technical and Military Agreement exactly what the terms of engagement are,
and that is precisely what we have done, and done, if I may say in shorter
order than many people anticipated. I think in respect of the various reconstruction
funds, I think you are right in saying that it is important that we make sure
there is not confusion there, that one of the purposes of having the conference
is to try and make sure that the international community acts as one on it.
And I think that people can see through the fact that this conference is taking
place, that the commitment that I spoke about, which is a long term commitment,
is indeed going to be delivered for people in Afghanistan. And I hope people
also understand that when the international community makes the commitment
politically in terms of time and energy and cash to Afghanistan, let us just
reflect on what happened, when we failed to make that commitment 12 years
ago or so. What happened then was that Afghanistan became a failed state,
living on terror, finally exporting terror and responsible for 90 per cent
of the heroin on British streets. So, if we want reasons of self-interest
as to why it is important that we commit ourselves to Afghanistan for the
long term, I think those reasons are there in abundance.
Q. There were reports that ...
and Afghans are planning to wage guerrilla war for the installation of an
Islamic government in Afghanistan. Do you see any dangers of this idea for
the coalition process and for the Bonn process and would that require additional
numbers of multinational forces in Afghanistan?
PM. Well, our forces in Afghanistan
are limited to the terms of the agreement and that of course follows on what
was agreed in Bonn. But it will be a major task of the provisional government
and indeed the authorities in Afghanistan to make sure that any pockets of
extremist resistance are broken down. But you know the best weapon against
the extremists, ultimately, will be some political stability because then
the voice of the people will be heard. And the one thing that is for sure,
I don't doubt that people in Afghanistan are the same as people the world
over, if they are only allowed to get on with their lives, with a proper legal
system, proper political rights, they can live together perfectly easily.
Very few people ever want to live under an extremist regime, very few people,
and particularly the 50 per cent or so of the population that are women, want
to live under a regime such as the Taliban regime. And, therefore,
I think that provided we make that political commitment to Afghanistan and
help in that reconstruction, I think eventually the best security against
that type of extremism from whatever quarter will be the people themselves.n
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